Monday, July 24, 2006

JEWS FOR JESUS;WHY ARE THEY SEEN AS A CULT??

I often go to the forums at Topix.net for the area I used to live in Jamestown, N.Y. I was appalled at the nasty banter that went on when Jews for Jesus came into town. Below is an excerpt from the forum. When it comes to religion, people get down right dirty in their scope and realm of defending their faith. But have they forgotten what Christ taught? Of course most Jews do not believe that Christ was any more than a prophet. I give credit where credit is due. They serve the same God I do and I do not try to sway them in believing as I do. But I will make one statemnet; Jesus was and is Jewish. He practiced the Jewish faith and he did not become a Rabbi till he was 30 years old. Think about that simple statement.
The bible is a matter of interpretation, it always will be. I have to ask myself, and I always do, what is the truth? I was brought up a strict Catholic but let it be known, I am not in agreement with all of Catholcism. I search for the truth and I will not swallow what is fed to me because of a political religious agenda. I will not say any religion is wrong and mine is right. I will only tell you this; I believe in Yeshua as my Lord and Savior. I hope you will, as I do,continue to take charge of your own life, in the pursuit of the truth. I hope I never look down my nose at others who do not believe as I do and I pray that the truth be made known.





THE ANTI-CHRIST
Germany
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Wednesday Jul 5
If you're for jezuz, then you're not a Jew.

It IS as simple as that.
BIBLE ANSWER MAN
Richmond, CA
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Wednesday Jul 5
MOSES AND APOSTLE PAUL AGREE ON SAME THING

Deuteronomy 10:15-17 (New International Version)
15 Yet the LORD set his affection on your forefathers and loved them, and he chose you, their descendants, above all the nations, as it is today.
16 Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer.
17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

Romans 2:28-29 (New International Version)
28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

SO, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY NOW THAT BEING A JEW IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS OF THE HOLY BIBLE TEACHES?
THE ANTI-CHRIST
Germany
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Thursday Jul 6
There is no such thing as an old testament because there is no new testament. That is just a fiction imagined by jezer-freaks.

If you believe in jezer, then you aren't a Jew.

Simple as that.
Patricia
Boca Raton, FL
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Thursday Jul 6
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.

Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
Otter
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Thursday Jul 6
Patricia wrote:
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
patricia. i am jewish, and an educated one at that. believe me when i tell you that any individual who believes that jesus was/ is the messiah cannot, i repeat, CANNOT, be jewish. don't tell me, someone who is jewish, how my religion functions and under which pretenses that it does so. jews for jesus is a cult at best. do not confuse a well anchored, documented, and literary religion with something such as jfj.

shalom!
Gnostic Bob
Arvada, CO
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Thursday Jul 6
Any reference that the new testament portion bible is authentic is simply wrong. Even if parts are accurate, Elaine Pagels has exposed the truth behind how and why the bible was put together. The new testament was forged to make it appear as though Jesus fulfilled the prophecies. It is the biggest scandal in history and reflects the true nature of mankind. Power corrupts.
newt
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Thursday Jul 6
Except...Jews for Jesus started out as a Christian group, but found they could "recruit" more jews by calling themselves Jews for Jesus. If you're Jewish, there are certain acts that must be brought about by the Messiah (for example, peace on earth and the mass resurrection of the dead). Clearly Jesus did not fulfill these. So if you believe Jesus i the messiah, it would be contradictory to also consider yourself Jewish.
Patricia wrote:
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
newt
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Thursday Jul 6
very nicely put :)
Otter wrote:

patricia. i am jewish, and an educated one at that. believe me when i tell you that any individual who believes that jesus was/ is the messiah cannot, i repeat, CANNOT, be jewish. don't tell me, someone who is jewish, how my religion functions and under which pretenses that it does so. jews for jesus is a cult at best. do not confuse a well anchored, documented, and literary religion with something such as jfj.
shalom!
clydecaddy
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Friday Jul 7
Patricia wrote:
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
bIG DEAL IF SOMEONE DOES NOT SPELL HIS NAME CORRECTLY. People who focus on spelling have nothing of substance to say.
clydecaddy
Estero, FL
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Friday Jul 7
I am still waiting for someone from Jews for Jesus to prove it is not a support group for an illegal mexican in the U.S.A.
THE ANTI-CHRIST
Germany
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Saturday Jul 8
JESUS how stupid people can be.

The ONLY power in that name is that it is an effective swear. My mispelling is an intended mockery.

As for the rest, I agree with the people who responded correctly to you. If you believe in Jesus, then you aren't can't be Jewish.

Not to mention the fact that there is widespread dispute as to the existence of such a person.

jesusneverexisted.com

If you knew your own religion, clearly that is christianity, then you would know that your religion is just reworked paganism.

DUH!

5 comments:

shane said...

we are not meant to judge. it is not our task. we are meant to forgive those who tresspass against us. judgement is his responsibility. he may cast the first stone if he wishes, as he is without sin.

shane said...

oh, a comment about satan. he is who he is. he does what he does. he was created by the Lord to do what he does. so of course he is good at it. he provides us with choice. we have the right to choose. heaven or hell. in the end. it is our choice. satan just provides the other measure for us to consider. he attacks you because you belong to Jesus. if you didn't, he wouldn't need to bother with you. good eh!

Babsbitchin said...

Shane, I am a firm believer that judge lest ye be judged. It is a premis I try to live by. I wish more Christians, if in disagreement, would pray for that person instead of pointing the finger. It stirs the pot of hate and intolerance.
You are right about Satan. He is a liar and is capable of so much. It is more than some choices though. Yes, we all have free will, we all have choices, actually from the very day we are born.But Satan is the expert at the game.I can smell him and I've jitterbugged with him, I know his dance steps.He has messed with me since I was a child. I saw Christ cry on the cross when I was a child and every since then, Satan has done everything he could to destroy me. What's the best tool he uses to destroy a person? Drugs and alcohol. It poisons you and your perception. It takes away your life, dignity and feeds you full of shame and guilt, hurt and pain.I know this first hand, Shane. I wish more people could have the X-Ray glasses I have on instead of the rose colored ones they're all wearing.
Thanks for stopping by again. I wish you had a blog of your own, you have alot to offer.

shane said...

i do, it is korero, on http://akukorero.blogspot.com/. yes, i know drugs, i know alchohol, i know gangs. but i made a choice. it is a choice i must fight for every day as the "liar" does his best to bring me back to his fold. he cannot win. Jesus is Lord and lives in me. i trust him.

Babsbitchin said...

shane, I'm sorry, if you ever come back to this comment that I'd not answered you.Somehow, I didn't get an email for this and didn't notice it. But it is a constant fight and I've learned that Satan tries to distract me from reading my bible, which is my ammo against him. I have to stay in the Word and it covers me with the blood. It is like a blanket to me that keeps me safe and warm. But I must read and swallow the words, right?